Chrysler 3 Speed Auto FWD Transmission
For more info go to Gary Donovan's
http://webpages.krausonline.com/spaul/Trans.html
This transmission was used in all Auto trans equipped Front Wheel drive Chrysler
products beginning in the late 70's until 1989, when the New A 604 Ultradrive
electronic 4 speed trans was introduced, and the 3 speed was used less and less.
The 3 speed is still used today in the Neon.
The transmission has been called by several different names, but they are all
basically the same transmission with minor changes to the case to accept different
engines as follows:
A-404 used with the 1.7 liter engine
A-413 used with the 2.2 and 2.5 liter engine.
Available with or without lockup converters.
A-415 used with the 1.6 liter engine
A-470 used with the 2.6 liter MMC engine
A-670 used with the 3.0 liter V-6 MMC engine,
came with the lock up converter.
It appears that the V-6 and turbo transmissions have 4 clutch disc packs,
Where the others only have 3 or less.
A quick rebuild
I have went through a few steps for "freshening up" a transmission. I would strongly recommend buying the transmission rebuild manual from:
Automatic Transmission Service Group (ATSG)
9200 S. Dadeland Blvd.
Suite 720
Miami, FL 33156
(305) 670-4161 or 1-800-245-7722
I bought mine from J C Whitney. Go
here to order and get info.
You could also get the Factory service manual. I think it actually
includes more info than the ATSG manual, but it is also much more expense
than the $12.99 The ATSG book cost! Do not buy the Chiltons
book on transmission repair for all domestic cars from 84 to 89. It is
over 800 pages and includes step by step instructions on all transmissions
except the 3 speed chrysler. It does have a large section on the 4 speed
electronic 4 speed. I called to Chiltons to complain that they included
a trans barely used in 89 only, but left out the main transmission used
by Chrysler. You can guess what there response was.....
A short list of tools you must have
Chrysler uses 4 main bolt head sizes, 10 mm, 13 mm, 15 mm, 18 mm. You
must have these sizes in both deep and shallow sockets and wrenches.
You will also need a 8 mm socket for work on the transmission.
A 32 mm socket to pull the axles.
2 Jack stands and a floor jack. Also either another jack, blocking,
or one of those "over the engine" bars to support the engine while the
trans is out.
Regular and Phillips Screw drivers
A set of TORX bits. I use a "Eklind" fold out set, like the hex key
sets.
Pliers, Channel Locks, Vise Grips.
Electric drill and small (3 or 4 inch dia) wire brush wheel for it
(to clean off gaskets)
Feeler Gauge set
Supplies:
Several cans of Carbuter Cleaner for cleaning off parts
8 quarts of 7176 (ATF+3) Transmission fluid
Rebuild kit (got mine from the dealer $65)
RTV Gasket sealer
Anyway, step one: Pull the transmission. Below are some notes, but are not a step by step:
First--- Take the car to a spray car wash and really clean the transmission well. It should be almost sterile when you open it.
You must pull both axles. Not too bad, Go here for instructions on pulling axles
The flywheel bolts to the torqe conveter only one way. One bolt hole is off center. It is the slotted bolt hole in the fly wheel. In order to easliy re-alain the converter to the flywheel when you put the trans back in, you should mark the two before you unbolt them. As soon as I pulled the dust cover, I sprayed some spray paint up in there on the flywheel and converter to mark them.
You must raise the vehicle and put in on jack stands! No exceptions! Do not even consider crawling under the car without it being securly held up. Before you are through with this "transmission remove and replace", you will have pulled, pushed, pryed, cussed, and done everything you can to knock the car off a regular jack, so don't try it. I place my jack stands under the K frame, behind the engine so they don't interfere with access to the front.
I have lowered the trans with a floor jack with a board between the jack and trans pan, but I prefer to use a engine lift crane (Cherry Picker) and lift the trans from the top and lower it down to the floor from above. Easier to lift back up into the car with picker too. There is a threaded bolt hole close to the timing access hole that I bolted the chain to. This puts the transmission at about the right angle to mate to the engine.
You must support the engine before you disconnect the transmission. I just put a jack under the oil pan with a board on it to keep from denting the oil pan.
The front motor mount can be left attached to engine block (two bolts) but I had to loosen them for realignment when I put the trans back in. The drivers side mount has 3 bolts to the trans, and one long bolt throught the mount. Take out all four bolts so the mount is completley separte form everything
Transmission fluid should be drained before you start. It will run out
of the axle holes at the worst times! (like when you are under it) You
pull the pan to drain the fluid. Put the pan back on after draining it
to protect it.
How it works (simplified)
The basic driving parts of the transmission that control which gear
you are in consist of two "clutch packs", and two "bands" These act
upon a planetary gear set which give you three forward and one reverse
gear by stopping (or turning) the different gears in the planetary set.
Which gear is which speed is not that important.
The clutches are in "drums", and the band wrap around and squeeze the
drums. If the clutch is compressed, power will travel straight through
the assembly. If the band is tightened, the drum cannot turn. The
drums are attached to the ring gear, and the front clutch pack is attached
to the rear clutch pack.
Difficult to explain, but the point is, through different combinations
of clutch and band engagement, the gears are shifted.
IN "DRIVE":
In 'first" gear, The rear clutch is engaged, everything else is loose.
In "second" gear, The rear clutch stays engaged, but at the shift to
second, the front band tightens on the front clutch drum.
While in second gear, the rear clutch and front band are tight. At
the shift to third, the front band loosens, and the front clutch tightens.
In third gear, both clutches are tight, both bands are loose.
In reverse, the rear band tightens, along with the front clutch.
From the above we can see the following:
The only time the rear is "engaged" is when the shifter is moved to
D. It remains engaged in all forward gears. If yours is slipping in all
forward gears this could be the problem. I would guess this is the "neutral
drop damage clutch"
A loose 1-2 shift could be a loose front band (adjusted outside the
case)
A loose 2-3 shift could be worn front clutch disc.
The 2-3 engine flare up is caused when the front band lets go faster
than the front clutch engages. The clutches are not 'self adjusting", so
the more they wear, the longer the stroke to tighten them. The longer the
stroke, the longer it takes to shift.
Any problem can be caused by dirty fluid or a filter. I will not discuss
change intervals, but before you decide on a rebuild, pull the pan, look
around, and put in a new filter and fluid. You may be suprised at the improvments!
If the transmission is not clean, clean it.
If you pulled the pan to drain the fluid, and it was full of metal
parts or shavings, I would consider getting a new transmission. You may
discover the cause of the metal, but it will be difficult to clean completely,
especially the converter. This will cause shifting problems with the valve
body and governor.
First, temporayally tighten the front band ajustment bolt. this will
hold everthing inside the case while you pull the front pump.
The picture shows it very loose. you must tighten it pretty snug.
Pull the pump out the bell housing
I used two 3/8 bolts about 6 inches long, and pulled them out with
a hammer.
Two of the bolt holes a threaded so the 3/8 bolts thread into them.
They are actually metric 8 mm bolts, but regular 3/8" bolts will work,
just a little loose.
The pump actually comes out pretty easy. You can almost pull it out just by
grabbing the 3/8" bolts,
but I used a claw hammer for a little leverage.
After the pump is out, loosen then front band bolt again so you can
get out the clutch drums and the front band.
When you loosen the adjustment bolt, the small "H" bar will fall out,
probably into the pan.
Here are the parts as they came out:
My kit did not come with replacement bands, and mine looked ok to me.
I dont think they wear
out too often. I just left my rear band installed. This as far as I took down
the cluch and gear
section of the transmission. My gears worked ok, it just slipped in gear.
Thr front and rear clutch drums slide off each other, and the input
shaft.
To replace the clutch plates, just remove the snap ring:
They come out in alternating between the clutch disc and the steel. Pay attention
to
the order they come out in.
This is how you check the clearance. Mine was LOOSE!
I could stick a 16 penny nail in the gap! The "H" bar is next to the
clutch drum.
You should check the clutch clearances before and after installing
the new plates.
#
4539124 is about .110 thick and # 4539123 is about .097 thick.
You want about 40 to 50 thou clearance. Set the rear clutch at the
low limit
on the spec too.
More to Come....
Still under constuction.
thanks to Paul Smith for the info/work
The differential:
To remove the differential, remove the stamped steel cover (10 mm socket)
then the 4 long bolts on the pass side bearing support, and the 6 shorter
bolts from the drivers side (shown above still installed) All three of
these items are installed with only silicone. Use normal practice to remove
the cover. It will spill fluid. To remove the axle bearing supports, the
must be twisted back and forth to work them out. To move the Speedometer
side (shown loose above) I stuck a wooden hammer handle into the speedometer
gear hole and used it to lever the support back and forth, breaking the
silicone seal. On the drivers side, I put two of the bolts back in
the holes, but made sure they did not go in far enough to keep the support
from turning when I used a small pry bar to apply a twist to the housing.
In the picture, I am pressing down on the bar, twisting the support.
The diff. will fall out when both are loose.
Note. It is not required that you remove the differential but you MUST
remove the steel cover and inspect the unit for damage. The spider gear
shaft will fall out:
Manual Valve body:
Lots of people ask what is involved in installing the Manual Valve
body. Remove the shifter arms from the top, then the bolts marked.
The yellow circles mark the bolts that hold the valve body into place.
10 mm socket. the two lower yellow circles on the left mark the park pawl
retainer. I have found it easiest to remove the bolts, then swap the park
rod over to the new valve body after it is out. (13 mm) The yellow
arrow marks the governor pressure lines that will just pull out when you
remove the valve body. the red circle marks the pressure adjustment screw.
Loosen it to raise the pressure!
More to Come....
Still under construction.
